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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 08:52 AM Thread Starter
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Only 50 manuals in NA?

We know that the adoption rate for manual cars has been steadily decreasing over the years. In the past almost every sports sedan could be had with a stick shift, but that is no longer the case. Just saw on Jalopnik that there are only 47 listings of three pedal G70's up on Autotrader, which is about 5% of what's online. I was under the impression that Kia missed a trick by not offering this on the Stinger... maybe not. https://jalopnik.com/there-are-fewer...ica-1832594631
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Manuals have gone down drastically and only really sticked with automakers that were known for them. BMW being one that has them tied directly into the experience its vehicles offer.
Hyundai/Genesis on the other hand doesn't come from that legacy and thus don't have that many people actively looking.
From the start I never cared for a G70 manual but I can bet as the years go on they will be highly desired on the used market.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-28-2019, 08:38 AM
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Interest in a manual gearbox would probably also be higher if it wasn't just restricted to the base model. I know this if often the case with more brands, but in the long term people care more about creature comforts. Honda continues to sell brand new models with stick shifts, even though they've said its not something they really make money on.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-01-2019, 08:34 AM
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Its a shame that so few people have an interest in buying a stick shift car. In just a few years there probably wont be any new cars offered with one, especially with the transition towards EV's. Heck even the new Toyota Supra is only being sold with a DCT.
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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-04-2019, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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Manuals are also one of the best safeguards against theft nowadays, since so few people actually know how to drive them. There are still a lot of manufacturers that are offering manuals in 2019 models, it just takes a little research. If it wasn't for the rise in fuel economy standards and regulations, I doubt we'd be seeing them phased out this quickly.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-05-2019, 08:53 AM
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DCT's are almost as engaging to drive and they bring better performance times, which is a big motivator for buyers. If you spend lots of time in congestion during your daily commute, it wont take long before you tire of that clutch pedal.
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-06-2019, 08:46 AM
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I will say that from the few cars I've driven with paddle shifters, that I wish you could disable the forced upshifts. I can understand there being a rev limiter, but I often found it being done prematurely.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 12:27 PM
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This is pretty interesting and reflects the trend away from proper manual transmissions. Genesis Senior Group Manager Kevin Smith spoke with Carbuzz.com about the manual transmission G70's and said

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"looking at just the portion of manual sales across our G70 2.0T variants, because the manual is not available on our 3.3T variants, the 2019 year-to-date manual sales percentage is 4%."
The article makes a comparison to the Toyota 86 which apparently is only at 33% manuals which is surprising to me.
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