[FastG]

G70's have been out long enough to start showing its flaws and surprisingly I haven't noticed much owner reported problems or complaints to be really concerned about.

Some minor issues will be mentioned and i'm sure there's more that have gone under-reported or not at all, stuff that future G70 and even Kia Stinger owners should look out for. Overall, the G70 is shaping up to be a solid buy. For all we're getting, some cost cutting is expected to show through and it has. Fortunately some issues that plagued Genesis vehicles and kept me away are not to be seen. The G80 it shares a platform with turned out to be a lemon in some cases, in others, not as chaotic but still worrisome especially with difficult dealers.

Then there's the Kia Stinger that shares some issues with the G70 from what I heard.

Genesis G70 Problems

• Few reports of poor quality paint and clear coat that doesn't hold up and might start chipping like the Kia Stinger (see Stinger pictures below)
• On the inside its poor fitment that's easily seen, some of it causing creaking noises: "However, the ride was still a bit rough at times, interior was too plasticky, some creaks and rattles" (bontebyuntae on reddit)
• Outside, poor fitment and excessive panel gaps seems to be common as well, bad enough that door seams get dirty easily (poor drainage) along with other areas that make it harder to keep clean, but that's the least of our problems. What some gaps might let in are beyond the reach of many. Down the road this might cause issues.
• Dealership experience that can be improved especially when compared to rival luxury automakers. This can make dealing with issues worse than it actually is.
• Fuel economy is lower than EPA estimated but not by too much (see average mileage report below)
• Seats Already Showing Signs of Wear "I already see some creases on the base bolster after 1 week which is being caused by my entry/exit of the vehicle, and some other owners seem to be finding the same thing regardless of having nappa/non-nappa leather. We’ll see how they age over the years, but as for their function, the seats are very comfortable,""Other than the creases which remains a minor issue for me, the leather feels great, but yes only time will tell as I indicated in my review. The Canadians who have had the car for a longer time haven't reported any major build quality issues but then again we need more time to understand." (bontebyuntae on reddit)

More exclusive to the G70 has been turbo lag that with the restrictive manual transmission, can be a major turn off if you've sampled enough other alternatives, but not so much if there's enough you like about the G70.

I would say the G70 is 80% of where it needs to be, the rest, like these issues and its too reserved styling should be addressed by time the refreshed mid-production cycle version is ready. That can change depending on the volume and depth of owner reported issues. Genesis is probably watching so voicing our concerns could help result in a stronger G70 in years to come.


Paint Chipping on Kia Stinger (similar to some G70's)

G70 Transmission Too Slow (skip to 19:35)

Perks, Quirks & Irks - The 2019 Genesis G70 in review

5 MAJOR Problems with the Kia Stinger [and G70]

 

[SYJ]

Good day all!
New genesis G70 owner in the UAE.

I have a question for you all knowledgeable owners out there. So I purchased my car brand new. Has about 300km on it now.

Been following the manual, keeping it under 4000rpm, no neutral revs or anything crazy.

However, today I realized that the car jerks with a thud??(not loud but audible) when I shift it from Neutral to Drive. I have my foot on the brakes, no accelerator involved.

It does not happen all the time. But Ive experienced it couple times today. Im coming from DSG gear boxes, and Im not sure if this is normal for the 8 speed hyundai (powertech?) Boxes?

It is the 3.3L AWD model, I have attached video below. Please help me out!

PS. I want to know if this is normal before I call the dealers and cause a scene.

 

[burgertime]

I don't see a video, and can only speak from experience with my car. It does seem to shift hard when it is cold, the RPM is about 2000 when I start it. If I let it sit and idle for a minute or so, the RPM drops and the shift is smoother. I do have the occasional rough shift when driving, especially if I am in sport and I am too soft on the throttle.

 

[FastG]

It might be a good idea if we start including our build dates as this might help narrow down on which are most impacted by this issue (and others)

 

[John0860]

bonte's thread on reddit was my go-to for assessing whether the Stinger's issues made it over.

Great information and hopefully he/she's is on here. Its no wonder upvotes up incredibly high. If anyone hasn't read though it I would suggest to do that first before replying to this thread. bonte's thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/a8oba7/usspec_genesis_g70_33t_awd_owner_thoughts_after_1/

US-spec Genesis G70 3.3T AWD Owner Thoughts - After 1 Week
I figured I might write a somewhat lengthy review/comparison of my current ride given that a whopping 180 G70s have been sold to date in the US so it’s a very rare car (<500 owners to date in the entire US, close to the monthly sales figure of the Civic Type R) in the US at this point and there’s some hype in the media in particular for this car. I know this is not the first personal review of the G70 (/u thehedgefrog posted one months ago based on his/her Canadian-spec G70 which also informed my decision) but this is the first US-spec G70 owner review post of the car on this sub. So here’s my take on it, but first some context.

I’ve been one of the most vocal fanboys of the G70 during the past 1.5 years on this sub ever since the NY concept was released at the NY auto show in March 2016. I was blown away by the design cues and the promise by Hyundai/Genesis on a focus on performance, with some already calling it a ‘3-series killer’ which was silly at the time. I read and watched pretty much all major Korean/English articles/videos previewing and reviewing the G70 since then, and after a long wait, I put money where my mouth is - wink to a certain poster who mentioned this in every G70 thread - and picked up the keys to a 3.3T G70 advanced (base) trim in AWD after negotiating a good deal - around invoice for selling price in addition to conquest rebate and lease incentives. I’m sure more incentives will kick in next year when more dealers get inventory and the 2020 model arrives with the 3D instrument cluster, but I’m happy with my analog cluster and I couldn’t wait that long. Also I don’t see it being given away as much as the Kia Stinger due to various factors like having a separate brand, concierge service, history, etc.

For reference, since most people aren’t familiar with the G70 (including some Hyundai salesmen who didn’t know what the different trims were), the features included in this trim are referenced below along with all the other safety features (lane keep, AEB, ACC, pedestrian detection, etc) as standard, and highlights the value quotient that drew me towards the car. The only thing I really wished I could buy separately would be the 360 camera (part of the prestige package which is $~4k extra). I have an anal tendency to park dead center between the lines and having one would help.

• Brembo brakes
• 15 speaker lexicon sound system
• Mechanical LSD
• Sport tuned suspension
• Full LED headlights and DRL
• Alloy pedals and aluminum door/console trim
• Ventilated/heated leather (non-nappa) seats and heated steering

I’ve had this car for over a week and as the first sub-5 second car I’ve owned that has any notion of being sporty, I am thoroughly impressed and love the car. I cannot believe how hard this car pulls and that this is a Hyundai/Genesis based on its driving characteristics - I’ve owned/driven various elantras, sonata, and genesis models over the years. The low-end torque (376 lb/ft at 1300 rpm) has enough oomph to push you into your seat even at 50%-80% of throttle, and the Alex on Autos figure of 4.6 seconds 0-60 without using launch control sounds credible. The cornering feels sharp and confident and it catches me off-guard on me how fast I can corner without losing traction, especially after owning the boat that is the Hyundai Genesis/G80. In sport mode the paddle shifters are responsive, work well, and they hold gears for a fairly long time unless you come to a complete stop, and I use the paddles already a lot more than I did in the Hyundai Genesis. I’m also using the custom mode a lot (sport engine, sport awd, comfort steering, no adaptive suspension on my trim) with ‘enhanced’ exhaust note pumped into my speakers which doesn’t sound obnoxious but is pleasing to the ear. The gears shift fairly quickly, quite similar to the mustang GT 10-speed in performance (more on that below).

My favorite feature so far is the side bolsters adjusting to hug you when you turn on sport mode. I found out recently though that you can manually adjust the bolsters and save to memory settings so when you turn on easy access mode in the settings, the side bolsters adjust every time you turn on the engine to your seat memory position. The car literally hugs you every time you enter as if to greet you to floor it! Beyond that, the remaining interior and overall material quality (maybe except one potential issue with the leather seats) feel great and it feels special/comfortable when I sit in it.

For comparisons, I didn’t bother cross shopping with other compact luxury sedans as I wasn’t interested in any other cars in its class. I did have a short fling with considering an Audi S5 sportback but it was out of my price range. The kia stinger… It looks like a great car for the money but it is also a bit big/heavy for my tastes and the interior/exterior didn’t do it for me. I did however drive a rental base 2018 Mustang GT from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon (~600 mile round trip) earlier this month for a weekend trip so I got good seat time to compare and contrast. I completely agree with all of the comments made by the throttlehouse review. People may comment it’s a weird comparison but you would be surprised quite a few people on the genesis forum are cross shopping between the two as they are roughly the same price points, with a couple confirmed purchases of the GT due to lack of G70 availability.

Basically, if I was in my 20s with no family and if I had a good income, no question I would probably get the GT. The V8 coyote motor is one of the best sounding engines I’ve heard and was my favorite feature, 10-speed automatic was great with quick shifts, the profile looks sexy as ****, has great driving characteristics, awesome road presence, and can be had much cheaper than the G70 3.3T. However, the ride was still a bit rough at times, interior was too plasticky, some creaks and rattles, and the infotainment! I know everyone circlejerks about SYNC3 and maybe it was just my rental but android auto couldn’t pair at all, the button layout was confusing as ****, and having the screen buried below the center console is not the best placement imo. People hate the ipad stuck on top of the dashboard look but I actually like it due to the fact that it keeps my line of sight nearer to the road and is more intuitive. Being the age that I am now, the G70 is a lot more refined and a better daily, has a better interior, less noise (good and bad), more usable rear space (although not by much), more under the radar but just as fast in non-track conditions compared to a mustang GT. Growing up instead of Bro-ing down.

A few negatives for the G70 are that the rear space is a bit cramped (I barely fit behind my seat), MPG is lower compared to competitors, the brake based torque vectoring can catch you off guard at times (did for me once in a roundabout), and the leather on the seats. I already see some creases on the base bolster after 1 week which is being caused by my entry/exit of the vehicle, and some other owners seem to be finding the same thing regardless of having nappa/non-nappa leather. We’ll see how they age over the years, but as for their function, the seats are very comfortable. The main hurdle for this car is the availability and dealership experience. My purchase experience could’ve been better but my salesman was nice enough and walked me through the process well. A good perk is Genesis will bring me a loaner to my house when I service my car, and I get free maintenance for 3 years so I potentially never have to step into a Hyundai service center ever, knock on wood.

Overall though, it is a fantastic car and I encourage everyone interested in getting a compact luxury sedan to take a look. I see a lot of heads turn mostly because no one can figure out what this car is, but also because it looks more stunning in real life than what pictures/videos show. Due to its depreciation and the unknowns of a new model/brand, I’d highly recommend leasing over purchasing.

Tl;DR - Bought a G70 3.3T which is 1 of ~500 available in the US at this point. G70 is worthy of the praise/awards received so far and I love the car, it is fast and sporty and a better fit for my needs versus Mustang GT.

Took some pics on a long drive and some from day of purchase

Edit: good summary of the Genesis rollout fiasco in the USA for reference

 

[FastG]

Good day all!
New genesis G70 owner in the UAE.

I have a question for you all knowledgeable owners out there. So I purchased my car brand new. Has about 300km on it now.

Been following the manual, keeping it under 4000rpm, no neutral revs or anything crazy.

However, today I realized that the car jerks with a thud??(not loud but audible) when I shift it from Neutral to Drive. I have my foot on the brakes, no accelerator involved.

It does not happen all the time. But Ive experienced it couple times today. Im coming from DSG gear boxes, and Im not sure if this is normal for the 8 speed hyundai (powertech?) Boxes?

It is the 3.3L AWD model, I have attached video below. Please help me out!

PS. I want to know if this is normal before I call the dealers and cause a scene.

Hey @SYJ the g70 manual transmission problem you're experiencing hasn't show up in the models I tested. Did you speak to your dealer about it?

 

[blahsheep]

Update 1:

I brought it to the dealer and the tech unplugged my dashcam when they got into it. They took off the undercarriage shield that was hanging on the ground. I'm not waiting on a new part for 1-2 weeks. As soon as I drove off the lot, I noticed noise coming from my rear passenger side when I go over a larger bump. I took it back and they wouldn't look at it without charging me 200 dollars because it doesn't have to do with the undercarriage. Even though this was obviously caused by it or by something the tech did. So now I have to take it to a warranty approved dealer for it and see what's going on. From my experience, it sounds like a broken strut. It sounded exactly like that in my old Elentra when it went. This car has 13k kms on it... my Elentra had 160k on it before one of them went. I have a feeling it's a lemon. I'm not pleased with the customer service. I'll keep updating.

I bought a 2019 Genesis G70 3.3 with 12500km just over a month ago. Now at 13400km, I've ran into issues. When I bought it I noticed a flap hanging on the undercarriage. They ordered the part and finally put it on two weeks ago. Last night I was driving on the highway and the whole undercarriage shield came off and was hanging on the ground. I drove it home and then took it to the dealer I bought it. I then noticed now there's a noise in the rear paseenger side tire, sounding like a strut has broken, maybe caused somehow by the shield breaking off.

 

[libmanlive]

Good day all!
New genesis G70 owner in the UAE.

I have a question for you all knowledgeable owners out there. So I purchased my car brand new. Has about 300km on it now.

Been following the manual, keeping it under 4000rpm, no neutral revs or anything crazy.

However, today I realized that the car jerks with a thud??(not loud but audible) when I shift it from Neutral to Drive. I have my foot on the brakes, no accelerator involved.

It does not happen all the time. But Ive experienced it couple times today. Im coming from DSG gear boxes, and Im not sure if this is normal for the 8 speed hyundai (powertech?) Boxes?

It is the 3.3L AWD model, I have attached video below. Please help me out!

PS. I want to know if this is normal before I call the dealers and cause a scene.

I noticed a little play either in the differential or somewhere along the drive shaft possibly transmission or differential not sure but I hear that same little Clank sound when I'm either coasting and then give it some acceleration or if I'm at a street light and I start a normal acceleration or after being in reverse the engaging to drive. I plan on bringing the vehicle in for them to look at it it could possibly be just too much play in the drive shaft connected to the differential I hope it's not the transmission itself. I also noticed if I'm trying to make a normal right or left hand turn sometimes the vehicle seems like it's slipping in first gear and doesn't engage or needs to up shift to second gear on the automatic transmission, but doesn't catch until I straighten out. It doesn't happen all the time but I notice it happening.

 

[williamiandouglas]

G70's have been out long enough to start showing its flaws and surprisingly I haven't noticed much owner reported problems or complaints to be really concerned about.

Some minor issues will be mentioned and i'm sure there's more that have gone under-reported or not at all, stuff that future G70 and even Kia Stinger owners should look out for. Overall, the G70 is shaping up to be a solid buy. For all we're getting, some cost cutting is expected to show through and it has. Fortunately some issues that plagued Genesis vehicles and kept me away are not to be seen. The G80 it shares a platform with turned out to be a lemon in some cases, in others, not as chaotic but still worrisome especially with difficult dealers.

Then there's the Kia Stinger that shares some issues with the G70 from what I heard.

Genesis G70 Problems

• Few reports of poor quality paint and clear coat that doesn't hold up and might start chipping like the Kia Stinger (see Stinger pictures below)
• On the inside its poor fitment that's easily seen, some of it causing creaking noises: "However, the ride was still a bit rough at times, interior was too plasticky, some creaks and rattles" (bontebyuntae on reddit)
• Outside, poor fitment and excessive panel gaps seems to be common as well, bad enough that door seams get dirty easily (poor drainage) along with other areas that make it harder to keep clean, but that's the least of our problems. What some gaps might let in are beyond the reach of many. Down the road this might cause issues.
• Dealership experience that can be improved especially when compared to rival luxury automakers. This can make dealing with issues worse than it actually is.
• Fuel economy is lower than EPA estimated but not by too much (see average mileage report below)
• Seats Already Showing Signs of Wear "I already see some creases on the base bolster after 1 week which is being caused by my entry/exit of the vehicle, and some other owners seem to be finding the same thing regardless of having nappa/non-nappa leather. We’ll see how they age over the years, but as for their function, the seats are very comfortable,""Other than the creases which remains a minor issue for me, the leather feels great, but yes only time will tell as I indicated in my review. The Canadians who have had the car for a longer time haven't reported any major build quality issues but then again we need more time to understand." (bontebyuntae on reddit)
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More exclusive to the G70 has been turbo lag that with the restrictive manual transmission, can be a major turn off if you've sampled enough other alternatives, but not so much if there's enough you like about the G70.

I would say the G70 is 80% of where it needs to be, the rest, like these issues and its too reserved styling should be addressed by time the refreshed mid-production cycle version is ready. That can change depending on the volume and depth of owner reported issues. Genesis is probably watching so voicing our concerns could help result in a stronger G70 in years to come.


Paint Chipping on Kia Stinger (similar to some G70's)

G70 Transmission Too Slow (skip to 19:35)

Perks, Quirks & Irks - The 2019 Genesis G70 in review

5 MAJOR Problems with the Kia Stinger [and G70]

I have a 2020 G70 and I have had problems with the wheels. In 40 years of driving and a dozen cars, I have never bent a wheel rim. My G70 has had two wheels bent from routine road obstacles which should not have bent a wheel. The second incident caused strut damage, which is a major repair. I am left with the firm notion that the wheels and suspension don't handle routine potholes and road imperfections to a reasonable standard. I like the car otherwise, but this makes me want to get rid of it.